Week 13: Ups and Downs of Missionary Work and how the Lord takes care of us

Dear Family and Friends,

So, we have been killing two or three pretty good sized spiders every week for a while now in our apartment.  Monday night I was in the bathroom and had just sprayed one and within five minutes another one came creeping across the floor that was even bigger than the first.  It was a little closer to me than I preferred so I swatted it with a booklet I had in my hand and it rolled across the bathmat and hit the wall, then started crawling behind the cabinet below the sink.  As it crawled away, I noticed a little pile of baby ants where it originally hit the wall and thought we must have just had a hatching of sugar ants.  I grabbed the nearby spray and sprayed a puddle behind the cabinet and hit the little pile of ants (so I thought) as well.  As I did they started scurrying in every direction.  As I widened my spray pattern the spray hit the edge of the bathmat and it came alive with hundreds and hundreds (literally) of tiny baby spiders.  So, of course, I dowsed the bathmat with the spray and stopped to check the effectiveness of my efforts.  I saw no movement, whatsoever, and thought I had surely eliminated them all, since the mat was actually pretty wet.  I decided to give it one or two more squirts just to be sure and as the first spray hit, it came alive again as if I hadn’t done a thing.  At that point I all but emptied the container re-drenching the bath mat. then I waited a minute or two and sprayed it one more time just for the heck of it and saw no movement.  I went to bed and told Sister Owens all about it and, of course, she had to use the facilities right then (which did not make her very happy). Neither of us spent much time in the bathroom the rest of the night.  After that fun experience, I remembered seeing once on the internet how the female of some species of spiders carry all of her young on her back for a certain period of time after they hatch.  That explained why that spider was so much larger than all the others we had seen.  That was the last straw for Sister Owens (not enough Campbell in her).  The landlady got a call about 7:30the next morning and was told to get someone out and treat the apartment for spiders.  We were in Tuscaloosa that day and when we came home we found powder all around the outside of the apartment and in several places along the walls on the inside.  We are happy to report we haven’t seen any spiders since, except for the huge one that was curled up and dying on the floor in the middle of the living room the next morning.

Now to the more enjoyable experiences of the week. We had District meeting, of course, on Tuesday.  It is interesting that we pick up the Sisters here in Demopolis and the four of us drive an hour to Tuscaloosa to meet with the District Leader and his companion for district meeting and then drive home again. Our district originally consisted of the six of us and one other senior couple and another Sister companionship.  The other senior couple went home in May and they closed the area for the other set of sisters. We have good meetings though.  Our District Leader, Elder Foster from Montana, is really a sharp Elder.  Interestingly, another district of about four or five companionships meets for their meeting at the same time just down the hall from us in the same YSA facility.  After we got back to Demopolis we dropped the sisters off and Sister Owens and I went to our appointment with Latasha and Cedric.  One of their daughters came to the door and said their mom wasn’t home.  We were a little bummed and another sister came and said (we thought), “She is just down the street, I’ll get her.”  We waited on the porch for a few minutes and then decided if she was just down the street, we could go meet them as they were coming back.  We walked a ways and didn’t see Latasha or her daughter anywhere.  We decided to go back to the house and wait.  As we got back to the house Cedric came around the corner from the back yard and soon Latasha appeared.  They were waiting for us and invited us into the house.  They had been sitting in the back in the shade where it was a little cooler.  I have to tell you what Sister Owens said to the daughter that opened the door when we got there.  As the other sister started down the street, Sister Owens told her to go ahead and close the door so they didn’t let the cool air out (it was a very hot day). After we went inside we saw that they only had a fan sitting on the coffee table in the living room and it was actually hotter inside the house than it was outside.  The sweat was literally dripping off my chin as we were visiting with them.  Sister Owens gave me a tissue and said I had to wipe my face.  We had a great visit with them for about 30 minutes or so and found out how Latasha had lost contact with the church when she moved from Birmingham where she had joined.  Before we left I asked her if she still had her Book of Mormon and she said she left it in Birmingham.  I told her I would go to the car and get her one and Cedric asked me if we would leave two of them.  Of course we were happy to do so.  We suggested that they have the Sisters come and teach them the lessons so Latasha could be reminded of what the missionaries had taught her and Cedric could understand a little more about her church.  They said they would like that.  We also found out that they did not come to church last week, the day after they watched the Priesthood Celebration broadcast, because she went to Cedric’s church with him.  We told the Sisters about them and they actually had their first meeting with them this week.

Wednesday was Sister Owens birthday and we got to take the Sisters to Selma so we could all be interviewed by President Sainsbury.  It was a great experience once we finally got to the church about 40 minutes late.  We intended to use the church website and find the LDS church when we arrived in Selma, which we did.  It told us where it was and we put in in the GPS and started on our way.  After we got about ten miles out the other side of town I was starting to feel we were not going to find a chapel.  The GPS had us turn at the Correctional Institution and after another 3 or 4 miles in the middle of nowhere we were blocked by three mobile homes in a semi-circle with the GPS showing our destination about a thousand feet past them on a road that did not exist.  At that point we called the Selma Elders and asked them where the meeting house was.  We put the address in the GPS and it took us back to the road where we stopped to look up the meeting house on the website.  It was about three miles up the street.  We still waited about 30 minutes after we got there before the President was ready for any of us.  So at least we weren’t responsible for messing up his schedule.  Sister Owens was very careful not to let anyone know that it was her birthday.  I was upset with her at our last Zone Conference when she was supposed to go to the front with everyone else that had birthdays this transfer and be sang to and get her treat.  She said that was just for the young missionaries.  Anyway, at the interviews missionaries started coming out of the woodwork and wishing her happy birthday.  Our sisters were a little upset with her that she didn’t let them know.  Sister Sainsbury had a newsletter that she was giving everyone while they were waiting for their interview and it had Sister Owens on the birthday list.  She didn’t get to keep the secret any longer at that point. After the interviews we stopped with the sisters at a funky looking BBQ joint in Selma to try some ribs and pulled pork for the birthday celebration and everyone that came out as we were going in said everything they had was the best.  We tried ribs here in Alabama once before and were extremely disappointed after Slow Bone in Dallas and I refused to try them.  Sister Owens ordered them and of course they were very good (my luck will never change).  Then when we got back to Demopolis the Sisters treated us to frosty cones at McDonalds, the best way Sister Owens’ day could have ended.  By the way Sister Owens says thank you to all of you who sent her special wishes etc. for her birthday.

Thursday everything went off without a hitch when we went to show the Priesthood celebration to the Book of Mormon class in Greensboro.  Deborah (our non-member who always attends) was there waiting for us when we got there.  Christopher, our other non-member we hoped would be there was not around when Brother White went up to get him, but he came down a little while later and afterwards said he really liked it. He and one of the inactive men both told us they were going to come to church this Sunday.  They have let us down the last couple weeks. The Sisters got a text from the Webbs during the video.  They had an appointment scheduled with them right after the class.  They met with them earlier in the week and had planned their baptism service for July 6^th.  The text said they had changed their mind.  They do not want to be baptized.  They are staying in their own church.  They don’t need our services anymore and they don’t want the Sisters to come to their house anymore.  The Sisters left the room and spent quite a while crying and then motioned for Sister Owens to come out and they told her about it.  We all felt really bad, but it is all in the Lord’s hands now.  They were referred by Bobbie Jean’s closest sister who was recently converted in Selma. Her sister had given the Elders several referrals and had gone on teaching appointments with them.  She was really a ball of fire.  Something happened just in the last week and she has become extremely anti.  She is posting several really bad videos on facebook that she has made defaming the church and feels it is now her responsibility to prove the Mormon Church is not true. We know Bobbie and Johnny have both felt the spirit and will someday either change their mind or come to regret the decision they have made. 

It was a blow to loose the Webbs but today Latasha and Cedric came to church and so did Christopher from Book of Mormon class.  The sisters have another appointment with the Kirks (Cedric and Latasha) this week, and Christopher said he enjoyed church and wants to come again next week.  The work goes on!

I hesitate to mention this because I don’t want anyone to think that we are out here needing money.  That is not the case. But we want everyone to know that we are fully aware of and grateful for the way the Lord takes care of us while we are in his service.  We have established a budget to follow while we are out here that covers all of our expenses from home along with all the expected expenses in the mission field.  We have expected all along that June would be a month that we would exceed our budget because it is the month that we make our property tax payment at home.  We were prepared for a tight month and knew we could handle it.  Last month we rented the van for Stake Conference and it took us about $57 over budget for May (well within our cushion).  We knew we would be a little over this month because of the tax payment. Having received money from many of you who have been so generous we are actually going to finish this month within our set budget.  We would have been just fine going over the budget, as we were sure we would and had actually planned for, but the Lord has blessed us anyway.  We are grateful to Him for his blessings and know that they come to us through the generosity of others, as they have for all of our lives.  Thank you to all of you for all you do and have done for us for so long.

We truly love y’all,

Keep the commandments and read your Book of Mormon!

Elder and Sister Owens

P.S. About the attached pictures.  A group has built replicas of the Nina and the Pinta and sail them around the waterways of the Eastern US and up and down the east and west coast for people to tour them.  Our ward mission leader said they invited non-members so they wanted us and the Sisters to come for the tour.  That way we would have enough that we could get the tour for a special group rate.  We came.  When we got to the ticket stand we told them we were in their group, pointing to the Smiths.  He looked at Sister Smith and said, “who all are in your group?”  She pointed at everyone that was standing waiting for the tour and said, “Oh, they all are.”  As far as we could later surmise the only one with them besides the four of us was a young man that was already a member of the church.  They have a large family, but we were actually a little short of the fifteen people we needed for the special rate that we paid.  It was a very interesting and informative tour though.  We enjoyed it very much.

Week 12: Plodding along and seeing the hand of the Lord in the work

Dear Family and Friends,

Monday this week we spent the day preparing food for the family and going to the funeral for Johnny Rogers in Tuscaloosa.

Tuesday was district meeting in Tuscaloosa.  I had to be there for a follow up appointment with the opthylmologist.  I saw him a month ago and he actually didn’t think I have glaucoma.  He took me off the eyedrops for a month (right after I purchased a new 30 day supply)  and wanted to see how things were this month.  He said my pressures are fine and he says to stay off the drops and we can check it again in six months.  Yay!!  I hated those drops.

Wednesday we worked on records again and went out to extend personal invitations to the Priesthood celebration we had planned for Saturday.  We got to see Latasha Vaughn and Cedric and invite them to the celebration and we set an appointment to meet with them in their home next Tuesday.  We have been trying to meet a non-member family whose two children have been baptized but have never caught them at home.  We went there with a flyer and their son met us at the door.  He is fifteen.  It was the first time we had ever seen him.  He hasn’t been to church since we arrived here.  The first thing he said before we even told him why we were there was, “I’m coming for sure this week.”  We told him we were glad and we would be excited to see him.  We told him about the celebration and gave him a flyer and he said. “I’ll be there, I’m coming for sure.”  When we left we weren’t sure he even knew we were talking about an activity on Saturday as well as church on Sunday.

On Thursday we spent the day in Greensboro looking for people who haven’t been to church and trying to find people who have insufficient addresses on the branch records.  Our appointment with Sister McCleskey that we set last week did fall through, but we called her from her doorstep and she told us she forgot about an appointment they had in Jacksonville.  She said she really didn’t do it on purpose because she really wants to meet with us.  We re-scheduled for next Thursday and later we noticed that I have a doctor appointment scheduled for the exact same time in Tuscaloosa that I have been trying to schedule since we got to Alabama.  Now we have to call her and re-schedule.  We actually got to visit with one sister from the ward who had all of her siblings at the house when we got there.  They were all siting on the porch visiting.  They were all in their 50s and 60s and had  been helping her cut her grass which had grown about 3 feet tall.  They were just taking a break when we arrived.  We had a nice visit and stopped for a selfie on the way home (see attachment).  We had no luck at all trying to find any of the people with bad addresses. We had our Book of Mormon class in the afternoon.  There are only two drivers among the active members in Greensboro that can get people to Demopolis for church.  Brother White has dialysis on Saturday  so he was not coming to the celebration.  Brother Borden was scheduled to work so they wouldn’t be coming either.  So nobody from Greensboro would be at the activity.  We decided to make arrangements with the apartment management to use the lunch room (where we have study class) for two hours and we would show the video next week instead of having class.  We would just have to arrange for access to the Internet somehow because as far as I could tell we could not download the broadcast,  All we could do was re-play it.

Friday we spent most of the day at the church laying out our plans to accommodate everyone in our one room building for the viewing of the “Be One” event we were going to have on Saturday. I had the thought cross my mind that I should hook up the laptop and check and make sure everything was going to work to re-play the broadcast.  I did so and clicked on “play video” and it just came up with an unknown error and said to try again later.  I tried again 3 or 4 times with the same result and ended up calling the IT person in the stake for some guidance.  We talked through everything and still couldn’t get it to work, so he told me to call the person over him because we had reached the limit of his expertise.  I made the call and he was not home.  His wife said she would do some research and get back to me.  Then the IT guy called me back and said it must be a problem in Demopolis because he brought it up on his computer and it played just fine. Sister Hearle called me back and gave me a link to the media section of the Church website and said to play it from there.  I brought it up and it actually gave me the option to download it, which I did (for an hour and thirty minutes).  So I had it and didn’t have to worry about buffering during the activity Saturday. And now we don’t need the internet in Greensboro next Thursday to be able to show it.

The Sisters dropped by while we were at the church and told us about a biking miracle (the missionaries across the mission post them everyday showing how the Lord guides them when they decide to use their bikes instead of their cars so they save miles on their cars)  They decided to bike to a teaching appointment and when they stopped at an intersection a lady hollered at them and was running to meet them.  The Sisters didn’t recognize her.  She said, “Hey, aren’t you LDS missionaries,  I was baptized into y’all’s church, I’ve been trying to find you”  She is one of the members who no longer lives at the address shown on the branch records and there was no phone number for her.  She moved out of state to help take care of her niece who has cancer and just moved back to the area.  She was excited to come to the activity on Saturday and to church Sunday.  I don’t know if the Lord was rewarding us for our efforts or just getting the work done in spite of us.  The Sisters never would have met her if they had driven to their teaching appointment.  The appointment fell through, by the way.

Saturday we had about 40 people come to the activity.  After the video started I noticed the boy sitting at the table next to ours was the young man we visited Wednesday that promised he would be there.  After about an hour Latasha and Cedric came in (they are super shy, she hasn’t been to church for about 8 years).  Sister Owens and I were both pleasantly surprised and jumped up to go greet them before they turned around and left.  Since they were late they only got a hotdog each and a spoonful of baked beans, but they stayed and watched the video.  We visited with them for a few minutes afterwards and they said they would come to church Sunday.  Our big disappointment was that that the Webbs (Baptism date set for July 6) said they were coming but didn’t show up.  They were going to come to Stake conference in the van with us and didn’t make that either.  Sister Ramirez that chased the Sisters down on their bikes was there with her children and we got her current address and phone.

So church today was great.  A member of the Stake Presidency and his family were our speakers.  Unfortunately, none of the new people that said they were coming showed up, but we’re getting used to that.  Sister Ramirez actually spent the day in the emergency room with a terrible toothache.  So I had the video from yesterday on my start bar and decided this morning to close it.  I went to open it this evening to make sure I would know where to find it Thursday for Greensboro and it is nowhere to be found on my laptop. I chose the open option instead of Save Friday when I downloaded it and it did not give me an option to save it to a location when I closed it this morning.  So here we are at the church downloading it again (saving it this time).  Since it’s Sunday it is taking about three to four hours this time instead of the hour and a half it took last time.  At least it was good to find out it was gone tonight instead of Thursday at Greensboro.  I’m so glad the Lord takes care of us and helps us get the work done even when we do some dumb things.

Week 11: "This day of life, which is given us to prepare for eternity"; A large dose of mission field

Dear Family and Friends,

What a week this has been!!  Sister Owens got an unusually large dose of the mission field this week as the Branch Relief Society President.  She is supposed to submit her list of Ministering Sisters to the Branch President for approval and she hasn’t met hardly any of the sisters she is supposed to assign.  She has been checking visiting teaching lists from the past and finding out that some of the sisters don’t even know they had visiting teaching assignments.  Monday the Primary President told her that she is taking the summer off and will start again when school starts.  So, for now Sister Owens is running the Primary and the Relief Society probably for the summer.  We have been keeping tabs on the Rogers family (the ones we did the service project for down on the river).  Sister Rogers left to be with her daughter while she had surgery.  The day after she left their son had an ambulance come out and get his dad and take him to  Tuscaloosa to the hospital.  That was two weeks ago.  She came home after a week but the hospital wouldn’t let her husband go home.  He has been in and out of intensive care for the two weeks.  We have been going up at least once a week to see him, and her when we could catch her there.  Every time we would visit him he would beg us not to leave him.  But of course, we had to.  We were sure he was very near dying but the hospital kept telling his wife they just had to keep him until he got a little stronger, then he could go home.  She had to go home for a break and we told her we would go stay with him Friday from 10:00 AM until 3:00 PM.  She got a call from the nurse at 9:45 AM that he had passed away.  He was alone when he died.  We met her at the hospital and started to make arrangements for the funeral and family luncheon.  Both of Sister Owens councilors and her secretary have been gone all week and she couldn’t get ahold of any of them.  She called the Branch President’s wife (the other active sister in the branch) to see how they usually handle the food for the luncheon (this was Friday).  She told her to just call the sisters and have them bring food to the church.  There was one active sister in the ward besides Sister Owens and Sister James that would be in town before Sunday. All this came on top of being gone for over 12 hours on Thursday for Zone Conference.

The first part of the week was spent trying to clean up the records for the branch and see where some of the sisters live so we could visit them.  We sent a text to one sister that never answers our calls and never answers her door when we come by.  She didn’t answer the text but we were in the town where she lives so we went to her house anyway and she actually came to the door.  Of course the first words out of her mouth were, “You have caught me at a really bad time.”  She actually said she wanted to meet with us and set a time for next Thursday for us to come back.  I guess we’ll see if anyone is home then (I am entirely too pessimistic).

The highlight of the week for Sister Owens was the cut and perm she got on Wednesday.  Sorry, but the $75 didn’t make it such a highlight for me.  But she has been much more pleasant each morning since Wednesday, so that is good.

It has been so sad to observe things with the Rogers family since the death of their father.  When I was there to administer the sacrament for them the week before he went to the hospital he said he wanted to get better so they could get back to the temple.  They are endowed, but have never been sealed.  Sister Rogers was hoping for a miracle – that the Lord would heal him just one more time so they could go. “But it just didn’t happen this time.”  The children don’t get along.  The three of them will be at the funeral, but will then go their separate ways.  They won’t sit down and eat together.  It is so important to take care of the important things in life and make sure things are in order with the Lord.  John junior had nothing kind to say about his dad the day we met him at the house when they took his dad to the hospital.  When we met them at the hospital after his dad passed, he was so distraught, I can’t imagine how he was feeling. Everybody in the family has had a lot of fun for a lot of years.  But they have never really bothered with the things that really matter.  What we do with “this day of life” is so eternally important.

Actually we had another Senior couple tour this Saturday and it was just the thing we needed after our week.  We toured a confederate soldier cemetery, a museum full of George Washington artifacts, the old courthouse in Columbiana (built in 1854).  The new one they use now was built in 1906.  There are records in the courthouse dating back to before Alabama became a state.  The church has a camera installed and they are digitizing all the old records.  The elders and sisters assigned to the area spend several hours each week digitizing records. The cemetery was so neat and we learned so many neat things in the Washington museum that we can’t even start to tell you anything because it will make the email too long (I know, they are already.  Sorry).  I have to tell you one thing though.  The artist that was commissioned to do a life sized statue of George Washington had him lie on the bed at his home and covered his body with a sheet and did a plaster cast of his face, which was used for the statue.  It is a perfect likeness of George when he was 50 years old.  The bust in the attachments (attch1&2) was made from the same cast as the statue.  His granddaughter was playing in the back yard while they were creating the plaster cast and she looked through the window and saw him lying on the bed.  She thought he had died.  They had to pause the process and assure her that her grandpa was not dead. I never knew that George was Martha’s second husband.  Their two children were actually Martha’s grandchildren from her first marriage that they adopted.  We found out lots of other neat stuff.

Interesting what you find walking through a civil war cemetery (attch3).

The gospel is true.  Make sure the important things get done everyday and every week.  Then there will be no regrets.

Keep the commandments and read your Book of Mormon!!

We love y’all,

Elder and Sister Owens

Week 10: Blessings of the Priesthood and a bit of a surprise

Dear Family and Friends.

The definite highlight of this week was Kaden receiving the priesthood and being ordained a Deacon in Texas and Gideon getting a Priesthood blessing from his dad in Boise.  Again we feel badly that we couldn’t be there but are so glad to see the blessings of the gospel in our family.  We are proud of all of you.

The internet went down around 1:00 PM on Friday at the Branch building and I wasted about 2 hours on the phone with Salt Lake and AT&T and they ended up telling me that we are not getting the internet and they weren’t sure why.  It actually started out pretty good when I was talking to Church Headquarters and the technician gave me the phone number to call to contact AT&T.  When I called the number the phone rang in our clerk’s office.  It all went downhill from there.  As soon as I found out that Tuesday was the soonest anyone could come to determine the problem, President James called me to see if we were going to watch the Priesthood Celebration that night.  When I told him the internet was down he said he and his son were going to come in from York to watch it with us.  I got a call Saturday morning advising me that the internet was back up so Sister Owens and I got to watch it last night.  It was totally awesome.  If anyone missed it be sure to watch it on the church website.  We are going to have a Branch dinner in a couple of weeks (you know, bribe them with food) and show it then.  We are hoping we might have about 30 people.

President Nelson’s message to the youth was so great this evening as well.  We were there with three young adults, one being an investigator, and the sister missionaries.  We picked up the young adults and brought them, otherwise it would have just been Sister Owens and I again.  They only allow the missionaries to come if a non-member comes.  None of our four sort of active youth were there.  The Smiths were out of town at a baby blessing, or they would have been there with their teenage children.

We were all quite surprised when we got the news that Sister Bond was being transferred and Sister Humphries was staying in the area to be a trainer.  We have a brand new Sister missionary.  Sister Snarr from Springville, Utah.  She is way taller than Sister Bond was and Sister Humphries (her trainer) comes just a little above her waist when they stand together.  She was really homesick tonight at President Nelson’s broadcast.  She asked me if I would give her a blessing.  It was a privilege to do so.  I could tell that she is going to be a great missionary.

We had gotten a call from the assistants to the president on Monday night asking if we were aware that the plan was for us to drive the sisters to the transfer meeting in Birmingham on Wednesday and that we would be bringing three sisters back as far as Tuscaloosa before we would drop one of them off.  I told him that would all depend on how big the sisters were.  I didn’t think we could get five people in our little Subaru and luggage for two sisters.  I told him to ask the sisters if they wanted to try to do that.  If they did, then we would be happy to try. So about 30 minutes into our trip Wednesday morning we were driving in torrential rain and our phone went off with a severe weather alert for our area.  It only lasted about 30 to 45 minutes, but I have never experienced that heavy of a rainstorm in my life.  The effects of Alberto had moved right over the top of us just that morning. Interestingly, when the transfer meeting was over and we had to go out and transfer luggage for 50+ missionaries from car to car the sun was shining beautifully.  We drove home under clear skies and unloaded the luggage for the Tuscaloosa sister.  Got home to Demopolis and got all of Sister Snarr’s luggage into her apartment and got home to our apartment and the rain starting pouring down again.  It’s awesome  how the Lord takes care of His missionaries.  I just wish I hadn’t used the umbrella when I walked into the chapel in the rain in Birmingham.  Now we don’t have an umbrella.

We had an interesting experience on Memorial day.  We went to find members of the branch in Demopolis and found several at home since it was a holiday (actually, I think they would have been home anyway because they are all on government assistance). One sister’s address on the ward list is “1^st Street.” I felt like we needed to find her and get the correct address for the records.  The street looked like it was only about three blocks long.  I thought we could just go door to door until we found her or someone that knew her.  The homes on the street were actually in pretty bad shape and several were abandoned and boarded up.  We finally talked to a gentleman that had been on that street for quite a while and he told us she didn’t live on that street anymore.  She lived on the street two blocks over.  We went to that street and asked a man that was grilling on his front porch if he happened to know her.  He pointed out her house about half a block down the street.  We went down and met her.  She was baptized about 15 years ago and is now 36 years old.  She has had another child that is not shown on the records and is now married.  She gave us all the information on her children and her husband so we could update her record.  We told her we would call her later and would like to come back and visit with her and her family.  She said we could do that.  While I was talking to her I felt that she reminded me of someone that I know.  I tried to think who it was but could not think of anyone.  Then I had the thought that she might just remind me of her and that I actually already know her.  I asked Sister Owens if she reminded her of anyone we know.  She said she does seem familiar but she can’t think who she reminds her of either.  I guess we will have to see how this progresses. We told President James that we found her.  He said he has never met her.